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Planes are canceled or delayed for 8-10 hours. Thousands of passengers have accumulated at airports and cannot take off. To achieve such an effect, you don't even need to hit anywhere.
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A drone can simply fly and cut circles, and this is enough to stop the operation of airports. Ukraine has nothing to lose in this regard - our airports have been closed since 2022. But in Russia, air traffic has still been maintained everywhere, except for border regions.
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And then in the last day or so, the situation has changed. Russians felt what Ukrainians felt in 2022. Air traffic has been disrupted. And most importantly, it has been disrupted in Moscow, which is a key hub. Russian bloggers are already sounding the alarm.
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They write that the collapse of air traffic in such a large country as Russia could lead to disintegration and feudalization. Domestic air traffic in Russia is very developed due to the long distances.
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It takes 3-4 days to get to some regions from Moscow by train or car, so a plane is the only fast option. And if it is not there, the connection of remote regions with Moscow will actually simply stop.
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I don't know why Ukraine didn't do this earlier and didn't use this trump card. But now we can state that a very unpleasant pain point for the Russian Federation has been found.
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It is not something that was suddenly found. This is a nobrainer. I think it’s rather that now they decided to do that.
Why should the Orcs be able to fly if Ukrainians can’t, it’s only fair game
Weak point? It only Invites real destruction on Kiev sadly
Is that so? Located 1255km from Ukraine, the main factory for the manufacture of Russia's KAMAZ truck company is burning.....
The biggest single effect is that all the Russian propaganda telling all Russian citizens that Ukraine is beat is now clearly seen to be lies and now for the first time Russians can be afraid.
One of these days, a Russian airliner will crash killing dozens of passengers and the Kremlin will blame the West for not allowing maintenance on the jets they stole, without realizing they could simply, you know, NOT FLY.
One correction: there is no "European" part of russia. It's all just a vile post-Mongol swamp full of barbarian sh*T.
Wellll, not exactly, Belarus and part of Russia, Moscow included are on the European continent. I guess every one has his black sheeps somewehere...
In the US we’ve accomplished this exact result by using antiquated air traffic control systems that unpredictably break down.
Reason #1000000 why war in the modern age is incredibly stupid. So easy to shut down society. Imagine if Ukraine had functioning long range strike.
Just curious for the game plan if Ukraine successfully annoys Russia. Where does this end? A country that has sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its men will walk away because of air travel delays? My sympathies to Ukraine - a pawn used by Nuland and Vindmann et al.
Majority of Ukrainians fighting from central & eastern Ukraine and didn't volunteer whilst Bandera 14th waffen SS Grenadier Galician xoxhol scum fled to be parasites in EU countries where they reveal true nature and are rightly despised as gypsies
Ukraine has ultra long range drones. And they should just fly decoys (with some real ones mixed in) every day at major airports (valid dual use targets). Don’t need to score many hits - the perpetual disruption to air traffic will be enough.
Whenever there's the question of "why didn't they do this sooner", ask "Did the Americans pressure them to not do it?". Good chance you'll find your answer
Let's game this out: How do you expect Russia to retaliate against this? How would the US retaliate if someone did this to US air traffic?
Not just air traffic, everything in Russia runs through Moscow.
If Moscow can be consistently disrupted - planes, cars, trains, power etc... Russia is fucked.
Took a while. How come Ukraine wasn't able to do this before. This is really impressive.
Look at all those prime age fighting men. Conscription at blocked up airports when?
I am pretty sure that after air traffic, internet connectivity is not that hard to attack ...
I expect that the same action will be taken to hinder the May 9th parade: it will be enough to send drones over Moscow without the need to strike.
It's a great and cheap way of causing economic damage and annoyance without civilian casualties.
> I don't know why Ukraine didn't do this earlier
I don't pretend to be an expert, but I've thought from the beginning UKR should infiltrate squads into RUS. Target airports. Power stations. Bridges. Railways. Dams. Make war catastrophically expensive for RUS.
Did they identify a weak spot or are they finally allowed to do what hurts the aggressor, now that Americans and Germans aren’t telling them what to do bc wHaT iF rUZZia FaLLs aPaRT sO sCaRY
Planes sitting at the gates loaded with fuel are soft targets. They’ll take the terminal with them.
Avoid the loss of your armed forces - rather than sink battleships, drain the sea
don't shoot down warplanes, cut off their fuel supplies
same deal for troops, cut off their food supplies (& R&R activities!)
They could shut down much more than airports by hitting Russia's power grid and destroying the major substations.
I wouldn't expect many Russian places to have good backup generators, so most businesses and transport would be shut down. Potentially for weeks.